1 00:00:05,809 --> 00:00:03,530 I've investigated about 50 or 60 cases 2 00:00:08,270 --> 00:00:05,819 since I came down to New Zealand and 3 00:00:10,850 --> 00:00:08,280 Australia extremely interesting UFO 4 00:00:12,650 --> 00:00:10,860 sightings a lot of help from local 5 00:00:17,029 --> 00:00:12,660 investigatory groups in Sydney and 6 00:00:19,670 --> 00:00:17,039 Melbourne and have found as I go through 7 00:00:21,050 --> 00:00:19,680 these that the type of sightings are 8 00:00:22,250 --> 00:00:21,060 essentially similar to those in the 9 00:00:25,370 --> 00:00:22,260 United States 10 00:00:27,950 --> 00:00:25,380 what are the main similarities 11 00:00:29,830 --> 00:00:27,960 persons of Rooney quite High credibility 12 00:00:32,450 --> 00:00:29,840 reporting 13 00:00:34,250 --> 00:00:32,460 unconventional objects discs 14 00:00:35,870 --> 00:00:34,260 cigar-shaped objects frequently at very 15 00:00:38,270 --> 00:00:35,880 low elevation 16 00:00:41,330 --> 00:00:38,280 hovering over sometimes urban areas 17 00:00:44,810 --> 00:00:41,340 sometimes over cars following cars 18 00:00:46,729 --> 00:00:44,820 same kind of public reaction quite a 19 00:00:49,069 --> 00:00:46,739 quite a strong similarity to the 20 00:00:51,110 --> 00:00:49,079 American reluctance to report them to 21 00:00:53,869 --> 00:00:51,120 official channels because of fear of 22 00:00:56,389 --> 00:00:53,879 ridicule but behind it all a very large 23 00:00:59,590 --> 00:00:56,399 number a a very surprisingly large 24 00:01:02,450 --> 00:00:59,600 number of these sightings of quite 25 00:01:03,770 --> 00:01:02,460 unconventional objects maneuvering in 26 00:01:05,929 --> 00:01:03,780 our airspace 27 00:01:09,230 --> 00:01:05,939 you have been highly critical of your 28 00:01:11,929 --> 00:01:09,240 own government's attitude towards ufas 29 00:01:13,250 --> 00:01:11,939 indeed indeed I have yes the uh I've 30 00:01:15,469 --> 00:01:13,260 taken a very good look at the American 31 00:01:18,109 --> 00:01:15,479 official investigation program Project 32 00:01:20,929 --> 00:01:18,119 Blue Book run by the Air Force and I 33 00:01:22,249 --> 00:01:20,939 have quite unequivocally described it to 34 00:01:24,950 --> 00:01:22,259 Scientific colleagues back in the States 35 00:01:26,270 --> 00:01:24,960 as superficial and incompetent why has 36 00:01:27,289 --> 00:01:26,280 the government taken this attitude in 37 00:01:30,230 --> 00:01:27,299 your opinion 38 00:01:34,609 --> 00:01:30,240 it's not not a brief story but it goes 39 00:01:37,910 --> 00:01:34,619 back to 1953 when a CIA involved 40 00:01:39,710 --> 00:01:37,920 investigation was held as a result of 41 00:01:43,429 --> 00:01:39,720 the extremely heavy wave of sightings in 42 00:01:46,990 --> 00:01:43,439 1952 the CIA and Air Force became so 43 00:01:49,429 --> 00:01:47,000 concerned over the sheer number of uh 44 00:01:51,050 --> 00:01:49,439 reports that were tying up air American 45 00:01:53,690 --> 00:01:51,060 intelligence channels that they wanted 46 00:01:55,310 --> 00:01:53,700 to get this signal out of the system ask 47 00:01:57,830 --> 00:01:55,320 the Air Force the CIA asked the Air 48 00:02:00,050 --> 00:01:57,840 Force for a debunking policy the literal 49 00:02:02,950 --> 00:02:00,060 wording was to debunk the flying saucers 50 00:02:05,330 --> 00:02:02,960 to decrease public interest in the UFOs 51 00:02:07,730 --> 00:02:05,340 regulations were promulgated very 52 00:02:09,350 --> 00:02:07,740 shortly that made it a crime punishable 53 00:02:12,110 --> 00:02:09,360 with I think it's ten thousand dollars 54 00:02:13,610 --> 00:02:12,120 fine and or ten years in prison to 55 00:02:16,010 --> 00:02:13,620 release any information at air base 56 00:02:18,670 --> 00:02:16,020 level on UFOs and as a result of that in 57 00:02:21,410 --> 00:02:18,680 the sequence of of steady downgrading 58 00:02:23,690 --> 00:02:21,420 the whole problem has been essentially 59 00:02:25,369 --> 00:02:23,700 lost from scientific site in the U.S and 60 00:02:27,229 --> 00:02:25,379 nothing resembling any scientific 61 00:02:29,750 --> 00:02:27,239 investigation has been going on in the 62 00:02:31,250 --> 00:02:29,760 past 15 years has this been typical of 63 00:02:35,630 --> 00:02:31,260 the attitude of most World governments 64 00:02:37,430 --> 00:02:35,640 as nearly as I can tell yes there seems 65 00:02:40,070 --> 00:02:37,440 to be quite surprising similarity 66 00:02:43,509 --> 00:02:40,080 between the official Russian British 67 00:02:46,970 --> 00:02:43,519 Australian Canadian American French 68 00:02:48,710 --> 00:02:46,980 Italian pronouncements they all seem to 69 00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:48,720 take the view that there's nothing to it 70 00:02:55,250 --> 00:02:51,120 there's a lot of nonsense that people 71 00:02:56,990 --> 00:02:55,260 see things and that it is not a real 72 00:02:59,990 --> 00:02:57,000 scientific problem at all and I most 73 00:03:02,750 --> 00:03:00,000 hardly disagree with that you have been 74 00:03:05,690 --> 00:03:02,760 as far as the United Nations with this 75 00:03:07,790 --> 00:03:05,700 problem yes about two three weeks ago on 76 00:03:10,910 --> 00:03:07,800 the seventh of this month of June nearly 77 00:03:12,229 --> 00:03:10,920 a month ago now I spoke to the outer 78 00:03:13,190 --> 00:03:12,239 space Affairs group in the United 79 00:03:16,970 --> 00:03:13,200 Nations 80 00:03:19,550 --> 00:03:16,980 urging immediate U.N actioned on this 81 00:03:21,710 --> 00:03:19,560 problem it seems to me that the UN is 82 00:03:24,589 --> 00:03:21,720 one of the best places to tackle the 83 00:03:27,050 --> 00:03:24,599 international the global aspects of the 84 00:03:28,850 --> 00:03:27,060 UFO problem and all evidence now points 85 00:03:31,729 --> 00:03:28,860 to to its being a truly Global 86 00:03:33,890 --> 00:03:31,739 phenomenon uh utan made a statement at 87 00:03:35,990 --> 00:03:33,900 the time I didn't get to see you Todd 88 00:03:37,369 --> 00:03:36,000 that was a busy day June 7th uh in fact 89 00:03:38,750 --> 00:03:37,379 I had a date to see him at four o'clock 90 00:03:40,250 --> 00:03:38,760 and if there was any one hour that was 91 00:03:42,050 --> 00:03:40,260 the peak of the Mideast crisis four 92 00:03:44,390 --> 00:03:42,060 o'clock was it so I unfortunately didn't 93 00:03:46,190 --> 00:03:44,400 get to see you a ton uh but uh quite 94 00:03:48,649 --> 00:03:46,200 recently a few days ago I I got a wire 95 00:03:50,030 --> 00:03:48,659 from a phone call from San Francisco uh 96 00:03:53,089 --> 00:03:50,040 pointing out that he had made a 97 00:03:56,270 --> 00:03:53,099 statement uh to Drew Pearson an American 98 00:03:58,309 --> 00:03:56,280 colonist that aside from the Vietnamese 99 00:04:01,070 --> 00:03:58,319 War the UFO problem is the greatest 100 00:04:03,710 --> 00:04:01,080 International problem and I sent him a 101 00:04:05,089 --> 00:04:03,720 wire strongly endorsing his position but 102 00:04:06,949 --> 00:04:05,099 disagreeing with him to the extent of 103 00:04:11,210 --> 00:04:06,959 saying that I believe it's the most 104 00:04:19,550 --> 00:04:16,610 we we have in in the UFO problem a 105 00:04:21,050 --> 00:04:19,560 a very strange situation here for 20 106 00:04:23,689 --> 00:04:21,060 years plus 107 00:04:25,969 --> 00:04:23,699 uh essentially similar phenomena have 108 00:04:27,409 --> 00:04:25,979 been reported all over the world large 109 00:04:29,689 --> 00:04:27,419 numbers in the U.S 110 00:04:31,909 --> 00:04:29,699 official of them ignoring them Air Force 111 00:04:33,890 --> 00:04:31,919 is ignoring them and yet apparently a 112 00:04:35,810 --> 00:04:33,900 steady increase in the numbers of 113 00:04:38,570 --> 00:04:35,820 Reliable Reports from people in all 114 00:04:40,189 --> 00:04:38,580 walks of life seeing these objects that 115 00:04:41,749 --> 00:04:40,199 are not products of our technology that 116 00:04:42,830 --> 00:04:41,759 are not meteorological astronomical 117 00:04:44,990 --> 00:04:42,840 phenomena 118 00:04:46,969 --> 00:04:45,000 hovering at low altitude increasing 119 00:04:48,890 --> 00:04:46,979 numbers in urban areas and collectively 120 00:04:51,770 --> 00:04:48,900 we don't know what's going on that's an 121 00:04:53,749 --> 00:04:51,780 extremely unwise situation no matter how 122 00:04:56,629 --> 00:04:53,759 you view it we do not know what is 123 00:04:58,370 --> 00:04:56,639 involved in this problem there are no 124 00:05:01,010 --> 00:04:58,380 strong indications of anything 125 00:05:03,950 --> 00:05:01,020 resembling hostility I see some faint 126 00:05:05,150 --> 00:05:03,960 indications of Hazard and danger but in 127 00:05:07,330 --> 00:05:05,160 general to 128 00:05:09,710 --> 00:05:07,340 to have this possibility that the world 129 00:05:11,629 --> 00:05:09,720 is under something resembling 130 00:05:14,270 --> 00:05:11,639 reconnaissance possibly from some 131 00:05:16,490 --> 00:05:14,280 extraterrestrial source and to go on 132 00:05:18,170 --> 00:05:16,500 about our petty ways collectively 133 00:05:19,730 --> 00:05:18,180 doesn't seem to me to be a wise 134 00:05:21,850 --> 00:05:19,740 situation so I'm trying to get 135 00:05:23,529 --> 00:05:21,860 scientists and 136 00:05:26,629 --> 00:05:23,539 governmental